Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Surprise 50th wedding anniversary trip

Need help planning a 50th wedding anniversary for parents, kids, and grandkids (24 in all). We are from RI area. Any and all suggestions appreciated.





Cruising would be nice, but may be time prohibitive. Any great inns/resorts in New England to suggest?




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You posted this in the Paris forum which probably isn%26#39;t going to get you many answers.





We do a family get to gether at Smuggler%26#39;s Notch. They have rental condominiums. You might be able to get threee 3-bedroom ones together in the same building.





smuggs.com/pages/summer/groupVacations.php





Barbara




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You%26#39;re right. I posted in the wrong spot!





I know Smugglers Notch is very nice, but I hear it%26#39;s very pricey and certain members of the family may find it out of their price range.





Trapp Fam. Lodge is another idea, as is Balsams in NH, but they come with heavy price tags, too.





We%26#39;ll keep looking!

Metro Pass

Is it possible to buy a pass to cover a few days Metro travel ?




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Me and my son will be staying 5 days Mon-Fri.



We will travel out to Disney for a single day probably on the Wednesday, so would not be using Metro apart from travel to and from the Disney park to central Paris (1 return trip) on that day.





Is it best to buy a 2 day metro pass, then a return ticket to Disney for the day we spend at the Disney Park, then another 2 day pass to cover our stay ?





There is a 3 zone pass available that I have checked out on-line at a couple of sites but the prices differ from site to site!!!



One, you order online and it is delivered to your Hotel for your arrival.





Another I have seen is called a %26#39;coupon hebdomadaire%26#39;





Could someone advise me of the best/cheapest option for travelling around using the Metro based on the above itinery.





Regards James




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Me and my son will be staying 5 days Mon-Fri.



We will travel out to Disney for a single day probably on the Wednesday, so would not be using Metro apart from travel to and from the Disney park to central Paris (1 return trip) on that day.





Is it best to buy a 2 day metro pass, then a return ticket to Disney for the day we spend at the Disney Park, then another 2 day pass to cover our stay ?





There is a 3 zone pass available that I have checked out on-line at a couple of sites but the prices differ from site to site!!!



One, you order online and it is delivered to your Hotel for your arrival.





Another I have seen is called a %26#39;coupon hebdomadaire%26#39;





Could someone advise me of the best/cheapest option for travelling around using the Metro based on the above itinery.





Regards James




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Me and my son will be staying 5 days Mon-Fri.



We will travel out to Disney for a single day probably on the Wednesday, so would not be using Metro apart from travel to and from the Disney park to central Paris (1 return trip) on that day.





Is it best to buy a 2 day metro pass, then a return ticket to Disney for the day we spend at the Disney Park, then another 2 day pass to cover our stay ?





There is a 3 zone pass available that I have checked out on-line at a couple of sites but the prices differ from site to site!!!



One, you order online and it is delivered to your Hotel for your arrival.





Another I have seen is called a %26#39;coupon hebdomadaire%26#39;





Could someone advise me of the best/cheapest option for travelling around using the Metro based on the above itinery.





Regards James




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Sorry about the multi-post above, don%26#39;t know what I done to cause that.




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Hi





Well, if you plan to take the metro a lot you can get the Carte Orange. You can buy it for different zones but with zone 1%26amp;2 you should be able to cover most of the sights in Paris. My wife and I bought this when we went to Paris in April and I think it costs about 15€ for zone 1%26amp;2.





Regards



Gard



gardkarlsen@hotmail.com




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And if you get the Carte Orange do not forget to bring a picture around 1 inch by 1 inch for the Carte Orange...





Safe travels...Jimmy




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Any Idea the cost ?





Thank you for the information that%26#39;s great.




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for the time you are there just buying carnets of tickets is probably wisest -- if you were there for a full week Monday to Sunday AND were not in a central hotel and needed to do a lot of bussing and metro riding then it would pay -- but for just a few days, just buy the carnets and then walk most places -- Paris is more fun and easily seen on foot -- just use the metro to get to more distant spots





we were there in May for 10 days but didn%26#39;t match up with the 7 days for the Orange -- we ended up spending a lot less on tickets in our 5 days in from M-F than the 30 Euro the Carte Orange would have cost (and we already had the holder with picture etc so it would have been easy for us to buy) when we were in Paris for a month and stayed in the 20th, the orange was well worth it




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Disregard last post.



You already said cost 15euros Gard. Thanks again.




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Ok, thanks Grace.



Is the picture holder an extra cost?

Travel time between Marseilles Airport and Cassis

We have a flight in and out Marseilles and want to spend 2 nights in Cassis before our return to Washington, DC. If we pick up a rental car at the airport how much time should we allow to return to the airport for a 10 am flight to Washington, DC?



Prue Clendenning


Washington, DC




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For a trans-Atlantic flight the latest I wouid suggest you be at your check-in desk would be two hours prior to departure and earlier would be better.



In theory you should be able to get from Cassis to the Marseille airport in about an hour. The problem however is that the route takes you straight through Marseille with all the possibilities of delays that that entails.



If I were in your position I would spend the night in a hotel near the airport, preferably one that has a shuttle so that you could return your rental car the night before.




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When in Cassis, please go to a restaurant called %26quot;fleur de thym%26quot;, it is owned by an old lady and her son (she cooks, he is the waiter). One of the best dinner I ever had ! Totally amazing, they use the freshest ingredients !



And avoid %26quot;les roches blanches%26quot; : worst service ever !




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The best way to get to Marseilles airport from Cassis is to go via Aix en Provence. It%26#39;s about 70 km, but you avoid all the Marseilles traffic and the only part that%26#39;s a toll road is the section between Aubagne and Aix. It will still take an hour.




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Fat Tire Bike Tours

Thanks to a previous post, we took the recommended Fat Tire Bike Tour to Monet%26#39;s gardens/house and really enjoyed it. The day is long.....leaving Gare St. Lazare for about 1.5 hour train ride then walking into Veron to purchase a packed lunch....walking back to pick up our bikes in a shed......packing up our lunches.....and the ride through town was not that bad at all and we had a someone who has not riden bikes in quite some time with us and all was fine. We stopped for about 30 minutes by the river to eat lunch then onward......we had about 2 hours total at Monet%26#39;s gardens/house. I would have enjoyed spending more time just sitting in the gardens but thats OK. The train ride back into Paris does not take as long because it doesn%26#39;t make any stops. Our guide Marcus was excellent. He had a great personality. You are on your own to go through Monet%26#39;s house/gardens...he is only your guide to get you from Paris to Monet%26#39;s House....he was not rich on facts but again I had the feeling that was not his job.




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Thanks! I wasn%26#39;t sure if we%26#39;d be bringing the bikes on the train or not - I am really looking forward to the bike ride!




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You do not take your bikes on the train for this tour, BUT there was a family on our tour that also did the Versailles Bike Tour and they DID have to take their bikes on the train and they said the people on the train were not too thrilled....but they still enjoyed!





Enjoy your trip!




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just wanted to agree with how great the staff at this place are!




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I am glad we won%26#39;t be doing the bikes on the train! I knew they were supposed to do that with the Versailles tour (which we didn%26#39;t do because a friend came back and mentioned all of the construction and the hall of mirrors being closed). Hopefully next year!





Monets Gardens look incredible, I%26#39;m very excited about it!

Shuttle Buses

When you arrive at the TGV Train station at disneyland, are there shuttle buses around in obvious places to take you to the various hotels? Im staying at Explorers and travelling with a young baby so want to have it all sussed out in advance. Thanks. :)




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Take the Pink Bus number 53 from just outside the disney station, These buses run regulary and take about 7 mins. As you have a baby l would recommend taking a little longer over breakfast as the early morning buses do get very busy.




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restaurants near rennes-le-chateau

We are staying in Esperaza, can anyonr recommend any restaurants around there, Limoux, alet-les-Bains etc.



many thanks




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We have not been to the region for 3 years but the following were good last time we went.



Couzia Ch. des Duc de Joyeuse, should have a web site, expensive and don%26#39;t be put off by situation, sitting in courtyard with a piano playing from an upstairs room-lovely. 04 68 74 23 80.



rennes le Chateau,La Pomme Bleu, this was on the market so don%26#39;t know if sold. BBQ in the shadow of the ruins 04 68 74 39 78. Quite spectacular.



If you want to experience a bit of rustic french the auberge at Burgarach was good- sorry don%26#39;t have name 04 68 69 87 59.



Also an OK restaurant at Rouvenac but didn%26#39;t take Barcleycard. There are also eating places at Rennes les Bains. Hope you enjoy your stay it is a beautiful region. Ps All of the above we took children too




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Trip report - tips for alternative sights in Paris

Here are some tips for things to do and places to go, when you feel that staring at the Eiffel Tower really isn%26#39;t quite enough any more.





Let me present them in %26quot;reverse%26quot; order:





20th arrondissement:



La Campagne á Paris and the old village of Charonne:



Take metro line 3 to Porte de Bagnolet. take exit Blvd. Mortier. Go up Rue Géo Chavez with the little shady square on your right. About 150 meters up there will be a long flight of stairs on your right hand. Take a deep breath and climb them - you will not regret it. On the small plateau on the top lies - sort of isolated, almost like the Lassithi plateau in Crete - the village called %26quot;the Paris countryside%26quot; (la campagne). Enjoy the small streets of Rue Irenée Blanc, Jules Siegfried and Paul Strauss (who were these people ??) with the cute cottages and flowers.



Go back to the Place de la Porte de Bagnolet. Go down Rue de Bagnolet - rather heavy trafic, not too charming - but your patience will be rewarded. About 400 meters down you come to Place St.Blaise with the old romanesque church of Charonne (presently under restoration, so no visit inside till next year). Turn left into Rue St.Blaise and breathe some real village-relaxation.



I had a really good lunch in the restaurant %26quot;Café Noir%26quot;.





18th arrondissement:



I thought I had seen about everything worth seeing in Montmartre - well, not so. When you face the Sacré Coeur at the Palce du Parvis follow the street to your right which will lead you to the downhill stairs of Rue Mautrice Utrillo - and believe me, you will be grabbing for your checkbook to buy an appartment here ! Go down the stairs to the little itsy-bitsy square where Rue Paul Albert meets Rue Muller. This must be one of the most romantic spots in Paris - have lunch at %26quot;L%26#39;éte en pente douce%26quot; and relax. After that go down the stairs of Rue Charles Nodier to the extremely colourful neighbourhood of Blvd. Rochechouart. If you are into sewing your own clothes here is the place to buy some cheap and smart material to bring home.





17th arrondissement.



Rue de Levis (see previous post). Turn right into Rue Légendre and follow this untill the square with the church in front of the park Square des Batignolles. Cosy cafés and lovely park - take a walk up Rue des Moines. Nice, relaxed, charming down-to-earth neighbourhood. One can only fear that the young and rich will spot this quartier.





13th arrondissment:



Places totally forgotten by the bulldozers in the ugly 60%26#39;ties



Take metro to Place d%26#39;Italie, go down Blvd. Aguste Blanqui. Turn left after about 150 meters into Rue des Cinq Diamants. Go uphill to the very very small village square. (Buttes-aux-Cailles was one of the last strongholds of la Commune de Paris). Have a drink in one of the cafés. Take Rue Alphand to Rue Barrault, turn left and then right into Rue Daviel. On your right hand in the Village d%26#39;Alsace - on your left hand is the small street Villa Daviel - you can actually live in a house with a small garden - smack in the middle of Paris !



Go back to Rue Barrault, follow this down to Rue de Tolbiac - turn left, walk for abouit 400 meters till you reach Rue des Peupliers on your right. Take this street, take a look at the small %26quot;villa%26quot; of Square des Peuplier - go down Rue des Peupliers to Place de l%26#39;Abbaye Henocque, turn left into Rue Henri Pape and quickly right into Rue Dieulafoy - a street with charming houses with funny, interesting roofs.





12th arrondissement:



Rue du Faubourg Saint Antoine and its old courtyards and passages - a neighbourhood %26quot;up-and-coming%26quot; ?



Take the metro to Place Bastille - go up Blvd. Richard Lenoir, after about 200 meters turn right into Rue Daval and right into Cour Damoye. Back to the Bastille - go down Rue du Faubourg Saint Antoine - the old neighbourhood of furniture carpenters. Be sure to check out all the courtyards and passages on both sides. It is very interesting to see the furniture workshops and small factories that are still producing furniture - plus some shops - which give you a good impression of how the bourgeois French furnish their homes (or how they would like to, if they could afford it).





9th arrondissement - Square d%26#39;Orleans



I love the quartier of La Nouvelle Athène. Go from Place Pigalle down Rue Frochot, Rue Henri Monnier to the charming square Place Gustave Toudouze. Have a drink, write a postcard, waste time.... Take a left into Rue Notre Dame de Lorette and then right into Rue Saint-Georges. Turn right into Rue Saint-Lazare and right into Rue Taitbout. After 100 meters go through the gateway to Square d%26#39;Orleans with the splashing, beautiful fountain. Chopin used to live here.





That was all for now - remember to bring soft, comfortable shoes or sandals !




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Wow, Gitte! You really did some exploring, and you describe everything in such detail! It seems like those places would be great for experienced Paris visitors.




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well, Shoesy, that depends on what kind of picture you want to take back home. I love to walk around in the neigbourhoods and streets where people live and work - also because I get Paris %26quot;under my skin%26quot; better this way. And because I have this silly idea of wanting to see all of Paris - I have bought some books about the %26quot;secret Paris%26quot; and I use those as an inspiration for tour-planning. Sometimes it takes me to places that turn out to have been shut down or that are under reconstruction or to villas (residential areas/streets with gardens) that now are closed off with high wrought-iron gates, so noone except residents can enter. Well, that%26#39;s part of the charm (even though I at the time throw some juicy curses at the French habit of fencing everything for %26quot;privacy%26quot;).




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I%26#39;ve been meaning to ask you, Gitte.......how many times have you been to Paris? Just curious.




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1973 - with my dear departed father



1977 - on the way home from language school in Grenoble



1979 - with campus room-mates



2003 - with my teenage son (mummy%26#39;s precious Gustav)



2004 - with my mother, Gustav, and my sister%26#39;s teenage son



2005 - on my own



2006 - on my own in May and in July





p.s.



going on a holiday with you mother........hmmmm..... well, they say you have to try everything once....... I also tried escargots and frog legs once and I do not feel any urge for a retry.....




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Thank you Gitte you have just taken me down memory lane! I used to work on Rue Legendre and know the area so well. I also, if I chose, walked back to the metro through Rue de Levis in the evening. It was like walking home through a supermarket only a hundred times better. As the market was just closing at that time there were the most amazing bargains to be had. It is not a part of Paris that gets mentioned often, I%26#39;m so glad you enjoyed it.




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Bonjour GitteK,





Les Batignolles, where I was staying last December and Faubourg Saint-Antoine, where I was staying last May are two of my favorites méconnus part of Paris.





Have you visited la Cité Lemercier, with the villas and the little front gardens it is hard to believe one is in the middle of Paris, Jacques Brel used to lived there. As you mentionned the quartier is a interesting mix of working class, artists and bobos. Truffaut fit perfectly in the decor.





Near Faubourg Saint-Antoine, I really like rue Charonne where you can find l%26#39;église St-Germain de Charonne dating from the 11 century and the place with the solar clock. There is so much Paris to discover it is a endless joy.




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%26gt; I really like rue Charonne where you can find l%26#39;église St-Germain de Charonne dating from the 11 century and the place with the solar clock.





Luckyluc - the church you mention in on rue de Bagnolet, it is the same one that GitteK mentions in the 2nd paragraph of her 20th arrondissement entry.





BTW the church is still open on weekends at the moment if you want to see inside. You can also take a look in the graveyard behind to see the tomb of %26quot;Robespierre%26#39;s secretary%26quot;.





For getting back to the centre you can either take bus 76 which runs to the Louvre via Bastillle from rue de Bagnolet or walk up thro%26#39; the graveyard and continue to place gambetta where you can either get metro line 3 or bus 69 (which goes to the Champs de mars via Bastille and the Louvre).




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luckyluc:



No I haven%26#39;t been to Cité Lemercier - but have passed close by. I tried to visit Cité des Fleurs on the other side of Avenue de Clichy and Villa des Arts close to Cimetière de Montmartre. But both were closed wiht high irongates to keep strangers outside - only residents may enter. That makes me so mad - since it is one of the less charming traits of the French. Both places are / have been ordinary streets, but special in the respect that there were gardens and interesting houses to look at. But as soon as the rich and mighty move in, there is no more sharing.



I have also been to other villas in Paris where the same %26quot;shutting-the-less-fortunate-out%26quot; is being done.





As to the church St.Germain de Charonne I don%26#39;t think it is open even on Sundays - all the interior has been torn down and it is one big dusty building site inside (I had to sweet-talk the man watching the entrance just to have a peep inside only last week, so I know.) - but you can visit the small cemetary behind the church.



The story about %26quot;Robespierre%26#39;s secretary%26quot; is (I believe to have read it somewhere) totally made up. The person was a building-painter and a drunkard, but he loved to tell that story about himself.




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Rebonjour Gittek,





Regarding Cité des fleurs, I just push open the gates and walked down the street since there was already a guide tour of about 10 people visiting the street. If you check the listing in Pariscope under visites-conférences you will see that the Batignolles tour included la Cité des fleurs, so you should not be to concern about visiting.




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OK - will do next year. Only problem is how I manage to disguise myself as a group of 20......



Maybe I should by a (cheap) bunch of flowers - ring one of the doorbells at the entrance and present myself as a florist%26#39;s delivery girl.........

Airfare Sale--LAX or JFK to CDG

Just got this email promo from Air Tahiti Nui--round trip from $458 this fall! http://tinyurl.com/qdk82




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Also, check out Air France. They are having a fall/winter sale. Fares to Paris start somewhere around $ 199 O/W plus taxes from NY (if my memory is correct). Also reduced fares to Africa etc.




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Hooray! I made the right decision on booking when I did :D Even with their sale fare from LA, I saved $100 by booking already! Thanks to everyone who told me to BUY IT! :P



bringing our VCR tapes to watch in French home

We are exchanging our house with a family in Paris. Presuming that they have a working VCR that is already plugged into the wall, is there any reason why our yoga VCR tapes would not work in their machine? Thanks.




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I am pretty sure it won%26#39;t work as they use an entirely different video tape format. I am copying below an explanation from a German company, not to recommend their transfer service, but to give you information about the European format:





Did you know Europe does not use the same VHS format as we do here in the United States? Most of Europe, including Germany, Austria and Switzerland use a system called %26quot;PAL%26quot;. We, here in the United States, use a system called %26quot;NTSC%26quot;. These two formats are not interchangeable. While the video tapes look identical, they can not be played the same. Just what do you do with this problem?



Actually it is not such a big problem, because we here at the German Language Video Center can transfer your tape from PAL to NTSC (or the other way around) on professional video equipment at a very reasonable charge. To transfer a tape we charge $19.95 plus $5.50 shipping and handling. What could be easier? We even supply the blank tape. So what are you waiting for? Send those tapes to us today for conversion. Usually transfers are completed the day we receive them or at least within two (2) days. If you wish to pay by personal check include a check made payable to:





German Language Video Center





You may also pay by Visa, Master Card or Discover Card. Don%26#39;t forget to include the expiration date. Of course, money orders and bank checks are always welcome too.




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Someone has told me that they believe French vcr%26#39;s use a format even different from the PAL format that is mentioned in the information above, something like SECAM? Maybe a local will help us out. Bottom line seems to be that your tapes probably won%26#39;t work.




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American VCR tapes will not work in France. If you can convert them to DVD then you can play the DVD%26#39;s.




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Yes its SECAM. I know PAL tapes play, but in black and white on French machines, maybe one of the American expats can tell us if NTSC would work.




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SECAM is indeed the system the French use and your NTSC tapes from America will not work.





You can have them transferred to DVD (or buy a DVD version), but then you would have to either make sure they have a region free DVD (because our DVD%26#39;sare not the same region either), or bring a laptop with a DVD player or a portable DVD player. Most laptops and portable DVD players are dual current and will work with an adaptor that you can easily buy at FNAC when you arrive.





Of course, there are also yoga classes in Paris.




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I know for sure that playing American NTSC tapes on PAL equipment isn%26#39;t possible - I think it%26#39;s safe to assume that they won%26#39;t do any better on SECAM equipment.





Although I%26#39;ve never had any problem playing DVD%26#39;s from the US, France or the rest of Europe on my DVD player, you shouldn%26#39;t assume that the NTSC/PAL/SECAM problem totally disappears once you use DVD%26#39;s: it seems that DVD%26#39;s still are either PAL or NTSC based. However, most DVD players can handle both formats.





The region issue is a separate one (not as much technical as marketing/legal). The majority of commercial DVD%26#39;s is %26#39;locked%26#39; to a specific region (US, Asia, Europe, etc.) to help film companies make more money. A %26#39;region-free%26#39; DVD player can play DVD%26#39;s from all regions.





Some VCR equipment can handle multiple formats - I found that often portable TV sets with built-in VCR can play multiple formats.




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In Israel we also have the PAL system if I%26#39;m not mistaken, but all of the VCRs that we%26#39;ve bought over the past decade have been multi-system, and therefore all tapes from the U.S. can be viewed on them.




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the vast majority of vcrs that are sold in France play NTSC. It just depends on how recent / nice their VCR is.




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MorganB is right. Just did some research of VCR specs sold in France and most of them play NTSC tape and automatically convert.






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People nowadays are buying almost exclusively DVD players, and have been for years - VCR%26#39;s are hardly sold any more. It%26#39;s true that the ones that are sold today may have NTSC support - but most people that have a VCR in their home, will have bought this 5 or more years back.

Trip report-Day 1

After we checked into our hotel-Hotel Henri IV Rive Gauche ( posted a hotel review today with pictures)- we unpacked, called home and then it was off to explore. Because it was raining, we changed our plans and did not go for a walk around the Marais nor did we have a picnic under the Tour Eiffel. Instead we walked over to see Notre Dame-what a thrill. We walked around to the side and back and then went to The Crypt to buy our 6 day museum passes (120 euro for two passes). They sent us to Sainte Chapelle to buy them. Don’t know if they were out or just don’t sell them anymore. We only waited in line about 5 minutes to buy them but did not go into the church because it was cloudy and rainy and we wanted to see it on a better weather day. We headed back to see the Crypt. What a neat place. It is hard to believe that the walls that have been unearthed are over 2 thousand years old. Nothing in Tampa is over 20 years old except the residents. Next we explored the streets behind and around our hotel. There were a lot of bookstores (being a media specialist that kind of thing really interests me) but they were closed since it was Sunday. We walked to the St. Michael metro station and purchased our Carte Orange passes for zones 1 %26amp; 2 (31.40 Euro for two). We put our pictures on them and signed them so we would be ready to use them tomorrow. We went back to the hotel to rest before dinner. It was still rainy and cold when we walked over to Ile Saint Louis on a mission to find Au Sergent Recruteur Restaurant that I had read so much about. It is very easy to find, right on the main drag. This is the restaurant where you get a huge basket of raw veggies and another one of sausages to eat all you want before your main course. Next you get a thick vegetable broth and pate. The soup really helped to warm us up. My husband had the Boeuf Bourguignon and I had the Confit de Canard (duck). Both were excellent. I had never liked duck before but had decided to try new and/or different things on this trip. The duck was brown and crispy and quite delicious. My husband, on the other hand, ordered a beef dish almost every meal-he is so boring and predictable. (Can’t wait to see his next cholesterol test scores.) Next came 6 different types of cheeses and then dessert. We both had the Mousse au Chocolat. It melted in your mouth. What a wonderful first dinner in Paris. The meal was 78 Euros total for two which included all the beer or wine you wanted. The waiter was great and teased us that we had to eat our cheese or no dessert. It had stopped raining by the time we left and we had a lovely walk back to our fabulous hotel for a good night’s sleep.




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just curious: when was your trip (weather being cool and rainy) ??




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June 25-July 2. I did a report on our plane trip and arrival titled Our flight to Paris-Delta %26amp; Air France yesterday and had included the dates. Sorry, I guess I should have put the dates on each individual trip report also.




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How strange ? I arrived on Monday the 3rd July and Paris was steaming hot ? I can tell you, I would have loved some of your rain and cooler temperatures on Monday and Tuesday - even though I am a sun-lover.

Dining in the 17th

I got a very good deal on a hotel in the Rue Brey. Second week in Septemeber, air conditioning, good reviews. I%26#39;ve stayed all over Paris before, including the 17th, but lately have been trying to walk to dinner, do the quartier so to speak.



I know it is not the most happening area, except for some very high priced restaurants, but would like some local recommendations for nice bistros, cafes, brasseries , after dinner drink, etc. Had a nice meal at Brasserie de Ternes once(fabulous napoleon for dessert!). And I am a good walker, doesn%26#39;t have to be that close.



Thanks for any suggestions, also for breakfast.




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I know you wanted recommendations from locals, but meanwhile I researched these for you:





Breakfast:





Boulangeries Paul - 4 rue Poncelet



Pain Frederic - 15 rue Poncelet



(note: rue Poncelet is a market street)



quite a few cafes on MacMahon, Carnot and Wagram





Restaurants:





Restaurant Guy Savoy - 18 rue Troyon



http://www.guysavoy.com/





Le Cafe d’Angel



16, rue Brey, 17th arrondissement. Telephone: 014 7540333



- see http://www.paris-eating.com/1202.htm





Le Troyon - see chocolateandzucchini.com for comments; search on Fodors also



4, rue Troyon - Paris 75017



Tél : 01 40 68 99 40 - Fax : 01 40 68 99 57.



Métro : Charles de Gaulle - Etoile





Chez Savy - 23 rue Bayard 75008



Tel: +33 (01) 47 23 46 98



circa 1930%26#39;s decor, rec. in Frommers





See also:



http://www.bestrestaurantsparis.com/



District 17




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Thanks, Travelnutty, will check out the links, think I may have been to the Troyen....and a cafe right on the street!




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Geordy,



We have just returned from Paris and stayed in the Hotel Neuville which is the 17th. If you like Italian you must try the San Remo. restaurant. It is quite small but the food is cheap and most important of all delicious.





I believe it was on Ave Niel, in any case it just off the place du Maréchal Juin.




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Understanding Streets

I will be at the Barrio Latino 46/48 Rue du Faubourg St.-Antoine and want to stay at a nearby hotel. I found the Hotel Le Patio Saint Antoine on 289 bis, rue du Faubourg Saint Antoine. Since I don%26#39;t know what %26quot;bis%26quot; means, I dont%26#39; know if this hotel is located in the same area. Does anyone out there know.



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Bonjour Tango2,





Bis simply mean repeat, or two. I think in the USA you would say 289B. You could also encouter ter, for three. So 289 bis is just next door to 289, but before 290.



So for example you could have Le 12, le 12 bis et le 12 ter de la rue Balzac.





The distance between 49 and 289bis Faubourg Saint Antoine would be about 20 minutes walk.





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%26quot;bis%26quot; is an addition to the house number, that usually indicates that a house/apartment/building was added after the numbering of the block was finished. So it is usually next to the building with number 289.





(When a building with a single house number is converted into a series of flats/apartments, you might even have house numbers like 12a, 12b, 12c, 12d, etc.)





The %26quot;All-Suite Hotels Le Patio St-Antoine%26quot; has 16 reviews on this website (use the %26quot;Search%26quot; function on the top left hand side of this page) - some good, others bad. Read them and decide for yourself if you want to stay there.




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There are probably dozens of hotels closer to Barrio Latino than the one you mention. Any hotel in the area round Place de la Bastille in the 11th, between Bastille and Gare de Lyon in the 12th, or in the eastern half of the 4th would be a shorter walk as well as being more central for almost anything else you might be interested in except Père Lachaise, Bercy and the Bois de Vincennes.




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All of your information has been very helpful. Thank You.




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Don%26#39;t worry, tango2, a 200 number discrepancy isn%26#39;t much in Paris, maybe 300 m. And, believe me, you%26#39;ll be happy to put some distance between a nice night sleep for you and the week-end madness at Bastille!





And FYI, %26quot;bis%26quot; means %26quot;twice%26quot; in Latin, %26quot;ter%26quot; %26quot;three times%26quot;, etc. (yes, you sometimes find %26quot;quater%26quot;! )




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Anyone have experience with Brassarie Flo?

Well, I am now officially 3 days away from my 2 week Europe trip. I can%26#39;t wait.





I did have a new question for the board. A friend of mine recommended Brassarie Flo this past weekend over dinner. Does anyone have any experience with this restaurant. It looks like a fixed menu based upon their website, but it also looks like it serves a wide variety of beer. But that is just my impressions.





Anyone have any comments or experience at this restaurant.





Thanks!




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I%26#39;ve had lunch there a couple of times. The food is decent and the decor is lovely Art Nouveau. It%26#39;s worth going to, but it%26#39;s in a neighborhood without much else to recommend it. You could go to Bofinger near Bastille for a very similar experience.




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Flo is a chain, and a very good one, despite what some food snobs would have you believe.





The menus are good value and well cooked. my favorite Flo establishment is Terminus Nord, for the pre train meals




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Totally agree with the Wiz. I found this anti Flo hysteria a few years ago (as related in Adam Gopnik%26#39;s %26quot;Paris to the Moon%26quot;) ridiculous and so caricaturely %26quot;gauche caviar%26quot; snobbish. It%26#39;s a professionally run ensemble of historical brasseries, with professional service and traditional brasserie fare, that%26#39;s it.




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advise on where to stay

I booked my trip late, and found availability at 2 places:



Hotel dei Marres (off Route des Plages), and


Les Bastides de Ramatuelle (on Route des Marres)



Does anyone have any advice on which is the better place to stay?



Thanks!




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can you give some more details about with whom you are coming there and is your trip more like fun adventure or you coming to rest yourself on nice place, kids etc ?




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Friends and I have rented a house for the last week of July, but I will be there one week earlier by myself. I have some acquaintances who will also be there at the same time, so I will be going to the beach clubs and out a few nights, but also looking forward to relaxing and reading during that first week.



does that make sense?




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All I can say is that Ramatuelle is relaxing area to stay, I am stick to center of St Tropez at Byblos hotel because I dont have to drive after I %26quot;crashed%26quot; myself in the hotels club every night.....




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yes, but byblos is, of course, booked. as are almost all places right in st tropez. lucky you - you can stumble back so easily from caves!




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if you like there is some new hotel very near which is very well and dont have website so far (it is part of chain so there is another hotel like that running in nice I think and have website...), if you like I can check it for you and give you contacts so that you personaly or trough good travel agency try to book it if ya like ??...





...yes, I booked B. 3 months in forward and it was only duplex suite left and some single room which it is too small....





hopefully next year you will manage to do it on time, I suppose you dont have so many time for holidays during year...





T.




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There is a beautiful new hotel--only 9 rooms--www.pastis-st-tropez.com The prices per night are serious, but the place is drop dead gorgeous.





I toured it, owned by a Brit couple who spent 3 yers putting it together--might be so new that it isn%26#39;t filled.




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Driving to Paris from Lyon

We are planning our 2007 trip. Is it realistic to drive from Lyon to Paris in one day? We will be picking up the car on our arrival at CDG and then touring the Loire, the Dordogne and Provence before spending a few days in Lyon. Then on to paris for several more days.





Thanks.




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Yes, it is (CDG-Lyon is under 500 km and it%26#39;s motorway all the way long). Beware though, you might be very tired after your flight : better tae advantage of the numerous rest areas along French motorways to stop very often.





If you are leaving at a busy time, traffic around Paris and Lyon might be difficult.





From CDG to Lyon, follow these motorways :





Exit CDG



A3 (PARIS PORTE DE BAGNOLET)



connect to the A86 towards CRETEIL BORDEAUX LYON



and then to the A6 towards LYON.




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Having a car in Paris is a liability, and the same goes for at least part of your stay in Lyon. So unless you have some special plans, perhaps a train would make more sense.





If you are planning to proceed straight to the Loire from CDG, check the train schedules. There are direct ones from the airport to Tours, stopping at St Pierre des Corps, outside of Tours. You can rent a car at either location. This is a nice alternative if you are tired after your flight.




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Thanks. We thought we would pick up the car at CDG and drive to Chartres and stay overnight there before going to Tours for several days as a base in the Loire after seeing the cathedral. Then on to the Dordogne and Provence. Lyon would be before we returned to Paris. I guess we would have to take the car back to CDG unless they will do a pick up at our Paris Hotel.





We might also check to see if we could leave the car in Lyon even though we would be getting it at CDG and then take the TGV from Lyon to Paris.





Any further thoughts would be welcome since we are just in the planning stage.




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If you were to return the car to an airport, Orly would be a better choice because it is on the way to Paris while CDG is way past.





I can see driving back if stopping somewhere on the way--Burgundy for example. If not, seeing how a car is not needed in Lyon, unless you have special plans, taking the train back is a sensible alternative.





I do my rentals through AutoEurope, using their toll free number.





A good source for hotels is Chateaux %26amp; Hotels de France [www.chateauxhotels.com].





www.mappy.com is handy for driving routes.





Sounds like an interesting trip.




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Francophool,





Thanks for the tips. The only reason I indicated returning to CDG is that it is generally cheaper to take the car back to where it was originally rented. I will check out the possibility of returning it elsewhere. I like the idea of taking the train back from Lyon but my husband prefers to drive. We had originally thought of stopping for a night at Nancy and at Troyes before going back to Paris but that would cut our time in Paris. I guess we could save Lorraine for another trip. We had ten days in Paris this June and have much more to see. We also had two days in Lyon and it was not enough. Four days in Dijon were great, too.





Again, thanks for the useful information.




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Loire info:





perso.orange.fr/guillonniere/loirevalley/




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Francophool,





Once more thank you. Checked the AutoEurope website and it looks promising. We may consider leasing although we may not have the 17 days they require for that. The Chateaux site will have to wait till I can connect from work as I can%26#39;t open it here on my older machine.





What started as a two week trip to celebrate my husband%26#39;s 75th birthday after our trip this year for our 50th anniversary , has no reached three weeks in the planning. I am still working and need to be back by September 19 so we are pushing back our starting dates.





If the $ were stronger we might go over that but will try to see what we can do in three weeks with one of them in Paris again--a must!




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Congratulations and bon voyage!!




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Civil Liability Insurance

I%26#39;m hoping to rent a flat in Paris for two or three months, and I%26#39;ve been told by the agency that I need to possess Civil Liability Insurance. I%26#39;m a UK citizen, BTW. I%26#39;m having trouble tracking down information about this Insurance. Anybody know any details about this?




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Yes, each occupant of a flat in France, be it rented or owned, needs to have such an insurance in case he sets the buiding on fire or floods his downstairs neighbours with his washing machine, etc. If the agency were doing their work properly, they would direct you to a broker they know, I am sure they deal with these kinds of cases all the time. Otherwise, I would suggest you contact a French insurance company with UK branches (such as AXA) or a British insurance company with French branches (such as Norwich Union, known in France as Aviva). If the worst comes to the worst, you could get easily get a policy on the Internet: there is an established French comparative site called assurland.com (tacky name, I know! ), with direct links to insurers%26#39; sites. But, I repeat, do not overlook this insurance requirement, you could get in big trouble if any of the aforementioned catastrophies happened! BTW, it shouldn%26#39;t break the bank: I pay around € 200 for a year and 65 m², so you figure for a shorter period and possibly a smaller surface.




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Thanks Bob that%26#39;s really useful to know. I think a couple of the letting agents I%26#39;ve looked at recently try to incorporate this into the price - like, 3% of the total or something - and they sort it out through an insurer called ADAR I think. Does that sound about right?




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Assuming you are paying a monthly € 800 rent x 12 = € 9 600 per year x 3 % = € 288 theoretically per year. Seems perfectly reasonable to me, and it does save you a lot of hassle. Go for it!




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Thank you - I%26#39;ll bear that in mind - although some of the properties I%26#39;m looking at seem to be a bit more than 800 euros, so the corresponding insurance fee will be higher too, of course.




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Is Place Marguerite de Navarre safe area

We are staying at the Novotel hotel at the Place Marguerite de Navarre75001 PARIS. Can someone tell me if this is a safe area of Les halle. someone said there are a lot of homeless and druggies in the area and we cant walk out at night. It would be a shame to go out at night and not be able to go out. However if we have to get back everyday at 5pm if the area is so bad, I suppose we have to. please help




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Yes, it%26#39;s a safe area. It compares quite well to Leicester Square.





The closest métro station is Châtelet, and not Les Halles.




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Yes, it%26#39;s like Leicester square, with much less throwing up in public on week-end nights.




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What are the areas best avoided. I am in Paris in August and would be nice to be forwarned, thanks.




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THANKS everyone. If the area is like Leicester square without the throwing up, I would say good area, but watch your bags.





Thanks for the info. Now if anyone knows what we can do about the tourists who throws up all over Leicester square, I can sure pass them onto our hapless mayor. I think 20 lashes would sort them out. LOL




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hotel advice

i%26#39;m trying to decide which hotel to stay in for my upcoming trip: i have narrowed it down to two choices; one is in the 1st district and one is in the latin quartier. they are teh same price. any help?




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Could you perhaps post the specific information, as in hotel names, at least..?




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yeah, my bad! i%26#39;m trying to decide between the cluny-sorbonne and le petit chatelet.




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jujubee72..... this should help you..Safe Travels...Jimmy





Hotel Cluny Sorbonne: Traveler Reviews





tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g187147-d279…





Le Petit Chatelet





tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g187147-d310…




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sounds like either will do, both in good locations, but you should bring ear-plugs for sleeping either choice.




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thanks guys! i had actually already seen these reviews, i was wondering if there%26#39;s anyone whos been to both..




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Interesting eats in Paris

My boyfriend and I are going to Paris for the first time in mid-October. We are very adventurous and want to eat what the locals eat. Can someone recommend cheap to moderately priced places where we can get escargot, frog legs, rabbit (stew if possible!) and I dare say, if any restaurants do actually serve horse meat, we would love to give that a shot, too!





We are also open to any other foods that we don%26#39;t regularly eat in the US. We will be staying in the Latin Quarter next to the Sorbonne but will go anywhere in the city. Thank you!




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Well, you could always try Chartier. I like it (although I am sure that I will get a lot of disagreements here) because:





1. The place probably hasn%26#39;t changed in 100 years



2. The food is definitely traditional French. I am looking at a Chartier menu now and you will find dishes like Oeuf dur Mayonnaise, Saumon Grille Sauce Bernaise, Pave de Rumsteack Grille Frites, Tete de Veau, Choucroute, Andouilletee de Troyes, and for dessert, Peche Melba Chantilly, Creme de Marron Chantilly (that one will stay in your stomach for a few days), and Tarte Aux Fruites des Bois



3. The price is right. You can have a whole meal including Entree (that means appetizer), Plats (that means Entree), Dessert, Wine or Mineral Water for about 20 euro.



4. If the food is not great, it is at least a very fun place to go to.



5. And of course, the waiters are brusque and can be rude. But if you stand up for yourself and let them know who is the boss, they will be your best friend. It adds to the %26quot;dining experience%26quot;.




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You will find adventurous eating in many restaurants of the city. I%26#39;ll give you _my_ selection as a local (but I love string tastes, and I may be a little off-road even by French standards).





Steak tartare. It%26#39;s raw beef flesh, served /préparé/ with egg, onion, capers and parsley. There%26#39;s a very nice little restaurant that has all kinds of tartare you may dream of (and their quality is superb, so don%26#39;t worry about hygiene): Les Tontons, rue Raymond Losserand, 14th district (near Montparnasse).





Andouillette. Well, that%26#39;s a _strong_ taste ... it%26#39;s a sausage made from pig%26#39;s intestine and stomach, served fried with mustard and French freis. It%26#39;s actually _delicious_ , although high on kcal !





It%26#39;s a typical /brasserie/ meal. Be sure the andouillette is labeled AAAAA (that%26#39;s 5 A%26#39;s in a row), ask the waiter.





Andouille is andouillette%26#39;s big sister, served sliced in a sandwich with mustard.







Boudin noir is... well, I have to tell you... coagulated pig%26#39;s blood in a sausage. It tastes wonderful. Served with mashed apples.





%26quot;Abats%26quot; (Offals) are quite popular in France. Liver and kidneys are the most popular of all. %26quot;Foie de veau aux haricots%26quot; is veal liver with green peas... hmmmm !





As for snails, they%26#39;re quite popular as a starter course. Served with garlic butter, but the taste is quite disappointing (garilc butter gives the meal most of its taste).





Don%26#39;t forget to try cheese that you won%26#39;t bring back home (fer of infectious agents) : époisses (hmmmmmmmmm!) and if you%26#39;re really adventurous, cancoillotte...







Horse meat is really rare in restaurants, but can be found in supermarkets.





Cheers and bon appétit!





S.




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STRONG tastes and not string tastes... My, my!




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Oh, my - I keep looking at the Chartier menu (every so often, I%26#39;ve heard good things about it), and am not sure if any of it is more normal (not intestines, raw, snails, etc.)





I tried putting some of the items in google translate, but it can%26#39;t figure it out! Is there anything on there that might be just normal steak? :)








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Here%26#39;s my translation of the main dishes:





Entrecote grille pommes frites





%26gt;%26gt; Rib steak with French fries





Pave de rumsteack grille frites





%26gt;%26gt; (Thick) grilled steak with FF





Pave de rumsteack grille bearnaise





%26gt;%26gt; same as above with béarnaise sauce





Pave de rumsteack au poivre frites





%26gt;%26gt; with pepper sauce





Piece de boeuf a la bordelaise frites





%26gt;%26gt; Beef steak in wine sauce, FF





Steack hache pommes frites





%26gt;%26gt; Minced steak, FF





Steack cru sce tartare (sans garniture)





%26gt;%26gt; Tartare rocks !!!!!





Escalope de veau au jus champignons





%26gt;%26gt; Veal scallop in sap, mushrooms





Gigot d%26#39;agneau pommes rissolees





%26gt;%26gt; Lamb leg with browned potatoes





Canette a l orange pommes rissolees





%26gt;%26gt; Duck with orange sauce, browned potatoes





Poulet fermier roti pommes frites





%26gt;%26gt; Farm roasted chicken, FF





Poulet fermier froid mayonnaise





%26gt;%26gt; Cold farm roasted chicken with (French) mayonnaise





Langue de veau sauce zingara





%26gt;%26gt; Veal tongue (that%26#39;s adevnturous, but good) in sap, tomato%26amp;mushroom sauce





Choucroute alsacienne





%26gt;%26gt; Sauerkraut




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Main MEALS ! My dear superheterodyne, you%26#39;re tired or what !




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I found some of the most interesting eats in the street markets and the small shops. Our room had a table and chairs overlooking a boulevard and what we enjoyed was gathering an assortment of cheeses , pates, marinated veggies , and oh those desserts from around town, along with a bottle of wine and a loaf of great bread and dining sumptuously in our room. That way if something pleases your eye you can try it- we ate lots of stuff we had never tried before ( rabbit pate etc ..) and loved everything , actually. I recommended assembling your own buffet at least once while you are there. Prepared food is displayed so beautifully for sale you will want it all.




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Superheterodyne - THANK YOU!!!! I looked on Google Translate, in my Rick Steves translation book, and elsewhere and couldn%26#39;t figure much of that out. Pave just means thick, so all of that is good to eat (the steaks). Yay!





I don%26#39;t mind others who are very adventurous eaters - I just grew up with a very limited menu, and don%26#39;t think of all animals in a food way (duck, rabbit, goat, lamb, horse, quail, etc.) I have stretched my palate since then, but am still sticking with my beef and chicken. :)





I will priint that out and bring it with me, I wanted to go to Chartier last year, but we were guests of someone who had a chef. :) I told our hosts about it, that the waiters were supposed to be rude, the restaurant crowded, and that it was very French. They were wondering why I wanted to go!




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Mazzybird, there is probably a restaurant that specializes in each of those %26#39;meat%26#39; items... (I don%26#39;t know if the restaurants are good, you%26#39;ll have to find out)





Frog legs: La Grenouille - 26, Rue des Grands-Augustins 75006 Paris Téléphone: 01 56 24 24 34





Rabbit: Monsieur Lapin - 11 rue Raymond Losserand 75014 Paris, Tel 01.43.20.21.39





Escargot: L’ Escargot Montorgueil - 38, rue Montorgueil - Paris 75001. Tel : 01 42 36 83 51





Horse: L%26#39;Ane Rouge - 3, rue Laugier 75017 Paris - Metro: Ternes Tel: 01.43.80.79.97



%26quot;L%26#39;Ane Rouge (The Red Donkey) is not just a restaurant. It%26#39;s a cabaret which produces stand-up comedians and humorous shows. Besides the show, the place is also known to be one of the very last restaurants to serve horse meat to gourmet dinners.%26quot;



paris-eiffel-tower-news.com/paris-restaurant…





Pig feet: Au Pied de Cochon - 6, rue Coquillière, Paris, 01 40 13 77 00




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Thanks to each and everyone of you for your invaluable knowledge and input! We are far from grossed out and are indeed very intrigued and excited about trying out your suggestions when we are in Paris. I%26#39;m just happy that there are kindred spirits out there who share our food interests. Please keep the suggestions coming if you can think of anything else! Thank you all!

Renting a flat for three months: agency tips

Hi there. I%26#39;m planning to take a sabbatical in France and I%26#39;m looking to rent an apartment for three months in the centre of Paris.





I%26#39;ve found a couple of rental agencies on the internet including



www.my-apartment-in-paris.com



and



www.parisattitude.com





I was planning to go with one of those. Can you think of any better recommendations for rental of this sort? Have you heard any good/bad reports of these agencies?




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You might also try fusac.fr. FUSAC is a bi monthly ad magazine aimed at the expat community in France. It is awash with these kinds of short term rental ads. I don%26#39;t know if they also appear on the web, but their paper version is also full of ads for rental agencies. Prices are a bit on the up side though, landlords assuming that the expat clientele is loaded by definition! But they should be still more affordable than the agencies you mention, that mainly cater to one or two week stays by tourists.




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Thank you! I%26#39;ll take a look today.




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We rented from Paris Attitude last month--all went well. See my July 1 post of our experience.




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Thank you I will. I%26#39;m actually thinking of going with lodgis.com because they seem to have apartments of the sort that I need in the time when I need them!




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Help please: Metro/Bus Tips needed

Hello travel experts, its our first time in Paris this mid August so please share your experience and help us.





Our travel package includes 4nites at Le Patio St-Antoine, 11th district- venere.com/img/…map_15084.gif. We are planning on taking the Open Top Bus Tour w/ Cityrama. Just wondering if our hotel is close to a Cityrama bus stop? I looked at the Cityrama map and it seems to say Bastilles which is about 20minutes from our hotel?? www.graylineparis.com/en/paris_open_tour . I%26#39;m totally clueless about the area and not good with maps, local experts please help!





On the ratp.fr website, found that Nation is another metro stop that is also close by, but which is closer--Nation or Bastilles stop? Reading the RATF map, I%26#39;m guessing M in the circle is the symbol for Metro, RER is train, then what is the T symbol for? ratp.info/informer/anglais/paris_visite.php#



Which is the best type to use, M, RER, or T?





Thanks everyone and have a good week!




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Hey, the metro and RER are all you need, but mainly I used the metro. I used the RER sort of like an express line-which is what I guess it is-and I always kept my eye out for metro stops.





I found that I could usually walk a few metro stops in one line with no problem. -One time around Notre Dame I went into one station and made a train switch -totalling five stops and when I got out of the station my friends and I couldn%26#39;t believe that all we did was end up one block from where we started.




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Hi hkc,



I%26#39;m not an %26quot;expert%26quot;, but this is what I would do: get back on the RATP website (I start at www.ratp.fr then click on %26quot;International Passengers%26quot; at the top right, which takes you to the screen I%26#39;m suggesting). Type in your hotel address under Departure, then Bastille metro for your Destination, fill out the other few items the screen requests, and it will give you their suggestion for easiest route. It%26#39;s a pretty nifty tool. In your case, it suggests walking to the Renuilly-Diderot metro station which is near your hotel (on Blvd. Diderot), and riding 3 stops to Bastille where you can catch the Cityrama bus. The metro is great for getting around the city--you%26#39;ll figure it out in no time. The RER is very similar. Busses are great, too! Some like one over the other, but it depends on your preference. I%26#39;m not sure what %26quot;T%26quot; on the map means...I couldn%26#39;t see one to try to figure it out for you. Only thing I could spot that might be what you%26#39;re talking about is a cross where churches are. Maybe I%26#39;m looking at the wrong map!




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Oops! Should have been a little more clear: Take metro line 8 from the Reuilly-Diderot station (direction Balard) then get off at Bastille.




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It looks to me like you are very close to the St-Sebastien Froissart Metro station. That would put you a few blocks (4-6) from the Bastille. The Metro is the easiest way to get from point to point and since you have a stop near your doorstop I would imagine that would be the best.





You should be able to orient yourself and find the Bastille monument by looking down the road you are staying on, you then can decide whether you want to walk to meet the Open Bus Tour or if there is an easier way to get there.





Go to the google map page, http://maps.google.com



Put in your address 289 Bis Rue Du Faubourg, Paris



Hit the satelitte button and you will see a picture of what the block looks like. You can also move the map to see what else is around.




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You%26#39;ll be staying in a nice, lively, off the beaten track yet central area. You live in DC, so, please, just go to your nearest chain or travel bookstore and %26quot;invest%26quot; on a real Paris map, the blue Michelin one for instance. I guarantee a return on investment much higher than Enron or Boeing! You%26#39;ll use it everyday on the run up to your trip and of course whilst you are in Paris.




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Aren%26#39;t %26quot;T%26quot; the new tram lines they are building/have built in Paris now?





%26gt;Which is the best type to use, M, RER, or T?





Best for what? Whatever gets you to your destination I would say...




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Yes, %26quot;T%26quot; is for the trams that, for the moment, are only operational in the banlieue (one linking Sèvres to La Défense, the other Bobigny to Saint-Denis). Of course, this fall, we will have the big inauguration of the first intra muros Paris since... the 60s? before the war? it will run on the boulevard des Maréchaux between porte de Vitry and the pont du Garigliano. Still not in hkc%26#39;s neck of the woods however...




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%26gt;%26gt; Of course, this fall, we will have the big inauguration of the first intra muros Paris since... the 60s? before the war? %26lt;%26lt;





The last tram that run in Paris was line 138 (now bus line 62) in 1937. The last suburban tram was dismantled in 1938. The trolleybus were introduced during the war due to fuel penury, but abandoned in the 60s.





Until a few years ago, tram rails were visible in front of the Invalides (the street surface had never been refurbished).




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THANKS A LOT everyone for all the great advice!






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Paris Brunch

I must relate a recent experience I had with brunch in Paris. The concept of %26quot;brunch%26quot; is relatively new in Paris and is a sort of offshoot of the traditional Sunday lunch with the family. G %26amp; I were out and about in our neighborhood on la Fête Nationale, and noticed some very tasty-looking hamburgers at one of our regular bobo joints. G sensibly ordered a club sandwich with fries, and I foolishly ordered the burger, not realizing it was just one part of the %26quot;brunch experience%26quot;.





First came the juice; then the pot of yogurt served with bread and jam. Next came the burger (delicious) on a freshly baked sesame bun served with pommes sautées, coleslaw and four pieces of bacon. I couldn%26#39;t possibly finish the potatoes or coleslaw, and I shared the bacon with G to add to his club sandwich. I couldn%26#39;t believe it when the server brought a plate of pancakes with syrup to erase the memory of the burger. AND THEN, a dish of fresh pineapple.





I swear I thought I was a TGI Fridays, the Cheesecake Factory, or one of those other American chain places that serve grotesque portions. I still think the French have a much healthier diet and better sense of portion control than we Americans, but I%26#39;ll certainly have to keep the %26quot;brunch experience%26quot; in mind the next time I get on my high horse about international eating habits!




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I%26#39;m not meaning to chase you through your threads... But à propos brunch, I recommend Dupond Durand in Neuilly (M° Sablons) on sundays, large choices all you can eat kind of and 35 Euros pp.




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Neuilly!!!! Might as well go all the way to Deauville for brunch.....




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Why the hell not, I%26#39;ve heard there are some nice places n the beach!







More seriously, it%26#39;s on line n°1 two stops after place de l%26#39;etoile!




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Oh....but doesn%26#39;t that mean it%26#39;s in the dreaded banlieues??? LOL




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Banlieue maybe, but Sarkozy%26#39;s !




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Well, Bob, at least there won%26#39;t be any prostitutes there!




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Ok, not worth a visit then :(




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Highly entertaining thread, thanks friends ;)

Any boat or ferry service from Nice to Livorno?

Is there a ferry service that would take tourists from Nice to Livorno directly?



I know about the ferry to Corsica, but that would take longer than the train. And we are taking enough trains on our trip; I thought a boat might be a nice change. This woud be for late Oct.





Thanks so much,



Marjorie




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I don%26#39;t believe so. In fact I think you%26#39;d have to take the ferry to Corsica, then another to Sardinia and only then could you take a ferry to the Italian mainland.




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Thanks, IR. I figured there wasn%26#39;t a ferry or I would probably have read about it by now. I wonder if I can hire a boat? Maybe it%26#39;s a cruise %26quot;lane%26quot; only...




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You%26#39;ll have to take the train or rent a car, or dig very, very, very deep into your pocket for a boat - if you can find one (probably several thousand Euros!!!).




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If you want to go from Nice to Italy by chartered boat, you will need a detailed plan. I%26#39;ll get you started.



Step 1. Win the lottery...



The rest you can figure out from there.




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Hmmmm, the lottery, eh? Judging from the line of people waiting to buy lottery tickets, it must be an easy way to instant cash, right?



Okay, I%26#39;ll buy a ticket but here is another query -- is there a train we can take that will not divert us thru Milan? By my calculations, it%26#39;s an almost 8 hour trip. That%26#39;s a lot of daylight spent on a train.



I%26#39;m sure the the train ride from Nice to Florence is lovely, but I don%26#39;t know that we want to spend all that time sitting (especially since we%26#39;ll have a long ride from Florence back to Zurich five days later).



Thanks for the help (and the lottery suggestion - man, do I feel lucky!).



Marjorie




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You *can* get to Florence from Nice without going through Milan, but it won%26#39;t save you much time.



Here is one possible routing:



Dep Nice 14:05; Arr Genova 17:06



Dep Genova 17:47; Arr Pisa 20:12



Dep Pisa 20:29; Arr Firenze Rifredi 21:26.



That%26#39;s still close to 7.5 hours, requires two connections, and gets you into the less central Rifredi station after dark. It%26#39;s the quickest routing I could come up with on a quick search.



I%26#39;d probably just take the 10:05 train via Milan and get into Firenze Santa Maria Novella at 18:20 in time for a stroll and an aperitivo before dinner...




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Thanks IrishRover for the alternate suggestion. It probably does make better sense to just take the Nice -Milan-Florence train.





Thanks for the advice.




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Newspaper In "English"

Hi All,





I will be staying in a self contained apartment and am just wondering what%26#39;s the best way of obtaining a newspaper that%26#39;s written in English on a regular basis.





Are there many places about that sell English newspapers? Is there any way of getting it delivered?




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Herald Tribune, or the London Papers can be bought at FNAC at the stations.





My best advice is to read the Guardian and the SMH online - Ive been doing that for almost 10 years now




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Many newsstands sell the Guardian, the Times and the IHT. Those at Gare du Nord have even a wider choice.




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Read them on the internet.





http://www.timesonline.co.uk



http://www.independent.co.uk/





Or even





http://www.thesun.co.uk/





At 3+euros a pop English newspapers are expensive to buy daily. Many of the pubs have free copies.




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International Herald Tribune is widely available in most newstands and they also deliver.

to Stade de France

Please advise the best public transport options for travel to and from Blanche (Line 2) and the Stade de France.





thank you / merci




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Metro line 2 at Blanche to La Chapelle and then hop onto the RER B or D at Gare de Nord and get off at the Stade which is the first stop on the RER.



And all for the cost of 1 metro ticket. Should take about 25 minutes.




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Walk/metro to Place de Clichy and take line 13. I prefer taking the metro to and from SDF.




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I would second ptegan%26#39;s suggestion. On big matches, there are stewards directing the crowds from the RER station and increased frequency.




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Prefer the RER B station (less than 1/2 mile away from SDF, more trains) over the RER D station (much further, less trains).





I used to be one of those stewards ... :-)





The métro ticket is _not_ valid if you travel on the RER for the RER part of the journey. Buy an integrated ticket from any métro station in Paris to SdF.




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Tour de France: Carpool to Le Creusot

Is anyone driving out to see the stage of the tour at Le Creusot on July 22nd? Or do you know of a shuttle or coach that will travel out that way?




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Maybe a look at





letour.fr/2006/TDF/LIVE/us/1500/index.html





would help.





Le Creusot is a sort of mini-me Cleveland or Civentry, and is _quite_ depressing ! unless you%26#39;re a rail and steel buff (the town was once the node of steel, iron and rail works in France)

Beautiful sheets, a lovely nightgown and brasserie

Help!! We will be in Paris for a total of 8 days early October. I am looking for some %26#39;girly%26#39; things mentioned above as well as other things to make my bedroom feel warm and lovely and it wouldn%26#39;t either if I felt that way too.



Thank you



DCS53562




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Brasserie ? are you sure you are lookink for a restaurant (or are you looking for a bra) ?




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If you want to find all of these items in one place, head to the huge department store, Galerie LaFayette. They have a huge area devoted to women%26#39;s linerie and, on another floor, many linens. There is also the home department in another building across the street. Walk down any street and you will see lingerie shops, such as Princess Tam Tam and Etam. Do a search on this subject as there were just some postings on lingerie.




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Do a search for %26quot;lingerie%26quot; here, there is a thread pages and pages long wherein we girls (and a few very willing boyfriends) discuss every delicate intricacy of bra shopping in Paris, lol.




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Just to save you some embarassment in Paris -- a brasserie is a restaurant. A bra is a %26quot;soutien-gorge.%26quot;





Besides Etam, which has some nice lingerie, even the Monoprix (which is kind of like Target only smaller) has fairly nice things. There are many Monoprix stores throughout Paris, but if you are on the Champs Elysees, there is one there. Do expect to pay a lot for beautiful French underwear.




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Depending on your age/price range, there are 2 small chains selling nivce lingerie : Orcanta (mid range to semi-expensive (from %26#39;huit%26#39; to %26#39;chantal thomas%26#39;) or Darjeeling (cheaper - cute - young), you find both is every shopping mall




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%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;If you want to find all of these items in one place, head to the huge department store, Galerie LaFayette.%26lt;%26lt;%26lt;





And if you can%26#39;t find what you%26#39;re looking for at GALLERIE LAFAYETTE, you can go to the other great %26#39;grand magazin%26#39;, PRINTEMP..next door. For what it%26#39;s worth, PRINTEMP offers a 10% discount on your purchases with the presentation of a foreign passport and if you do all of your shopping at one or the other, you may qualify for the VAT refund on MINIMUM purchases (175 €) in the SAME store on the SAME day. If your purchases run to over 175 €, between the discount and the VAT refund, Printemp may be the better %26#39;deal%26#39;...but either %26#39;grand magazine%26#39; should suit your purpose. Both GALERIE LAFAYETTE and PRINTEMP are open late on Thursdays





GALLERIES LAFAYETTE--



http://www.galerieslafayette.com/index.do





PRINTEMP--



http://www.printemps.com/soldes.asp?404;http://www.printemps.com/index.asp




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Thank-you for taking the time to answer my question. This is my first time looking at travel sights and visiting any forum. I hope that my question was %26quot;serious%26quot; enough, or hadn%26#39;t been asked to many times.


After reading through the forum for the past couple of weeks, I%26#39;m more than a little anxious to ask anything else. I guess that I don%26#39;t know what this is suppose to be used for so I am sorry if I took up space here unnecessarily. Again, to the people who took the time to answer me, thank-you for your kindness.



DCS53562




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DCS - you can ask anything you like or need to know. There might be some folks who take a good-natured jab if it%26#39;s a funny topic and there will be some folks who can be snide. But the snide ones are in the very small minority and the helpful, informative and kind-hearted folks more than make up for a few rotten eggs.




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DCS -- I think your question was perfectly legitimate. Not that any question is a dumb one. I hope you feel comfortable posting again.





This forum can be a great help in planning a trip to Paris.




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I think your question is fine. You can find so many beautiful shops all over Paris. The most beautiful Lingerie shop I%26#39;ve found is in the Galley Vivian.





The only drawback I can think of is that if you are planning to use these items while you are in Paris. I prefer to launder my sheets prior to using them and that might mean a trip to the launderette. You could hand wash the other things. Although I once spilled a glass of red wine in bed and had to hand wash a sheet in the midle of the night so I know it can be done.

Merci MorganB!!

I booked our TGV tickets online according to your wonderful instructions. It couldn%26#39;t have been easier! Thank you, thank you! Now I just need to fold them into the 4 sections and hope that the ticket agents at the rail station will aprove them. Did you cut the edges off or anything like that to make them a uniform size? Thanks again!




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Thats great news :) Thank you for taking the time to post back. Its always nice to hear from someone who found my post helpful. Glad you got the tickets easily.





Dont worry about folding the tickets at all. They dont care . I only fold them to make them easy to carry but they dont worry about that at all. In fact I had forgotten it says to do that. Have a great trip at 300km/h! :)




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Visiting Disneyland Paris in July

We are staying in Paris for a week from 29 July and intend to visit Disneyland Paris. We are on the east side near Chateau Vincennes so think it may be best to drive there.





Any adv ice as to whether driving would be a good option - there are 8 of us altogether or would it be much better to go on the train?





On the website it says that entry is subject to capacity of the park - does this mean that we could travel there and not get in (een if we had purchased tickets in advance)?





A 10% reduction on buying tickets in advance is offered on the website and then you do not have to queue. Presumably picking up the tickets on site is a relatively easy and simple process, does anyone have any experience of this?





I know it will be busy for most of the summer holidays - any views on a best day to go?





Any other advice to make this trip as easy as possible please?





Thanks for your help.




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Train is direct and you dont have to worry about traffic. Thats about it for the plus side of the train lol. If it is hot outside there is no AC and the train is like a sauna. It can be crowded. I went to Disney yesterday and the crowd was light in the morning and picked up untill it was fairly heavy by 2.





We rode with someone in a car to Disney and took the RER back. The car was FAR more comfortable.





As far as capacity is concerned, yes if the parc is full they will not let you in. As people exit they will let more in. But it is very unusual for the parc to reach capacity.




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Take your own packed lunches and drinks if you can. Once your at the Disney Parc the prices soar.




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